Wikipedia:2019年ノートページに関する協議/summary

Summary per question

1. When you want to discuss a topic with your community, what tools work for you, and what problems block you?

• Because explanations in English are basically many in the time of edits, articles and talks in Japanese do not increase.
• Wikipedia app in iPhone does not work stably.
• At the time of deleting characters, inputs are cancelled or 3Dtouch is unstable.

2. What about talk pages works for newcomers, and what blocks them?

• Are newcomers worried about ways to use and manner to other users?
• Ways to use comments are hard to understand at the time of getting opinions and impressions from other users on a talk page learning ways to edit. Easier expressions on talk pages are necessary for easy response to other users.
• Newcomers are worried about their signatures to forget and ways to do them.
• A participant who did not know a tacit rule, “we consider silence as agreement”, as a newcomer asked many users’ opinions on their talk pages because no one responded proposal on a talk page. Tacit rules are hard to participate in the community as a newcomer.
• Expressions such as ‘’help’’ for beginners that arrange most necessary basic rules concisely are good idea excluding traditional ‘’help’’. There are a little articles that arrange information totally on the Internet. Newcomers will spread and their reusages will be promoted. Articles that have been arranged about usage help me to join on the Internet.

3. What do others struggle with in your community about talk pages?

• Are ”Edit tools” not to see on talk pages under specifications?　Are a little rough writings of some people like ancient writings on talk page their tacit rules?
• Harder to understand incompletely translated edit tools.
• Hard to sign by a smartphone.
• Easy mobile signature, please.
• Hard to understand mobile edit very much and hard to do it as other users say. There is not any expression about mobile edit on talk pages about our signatures. Easier to understand by concrete mention of our writings at areas to write the text.
• Proposing promotion of activity. In spite of objective that SNS ‘’itself’’ is not our goal as an assumed solution in [1], easy browses and writings to SNS are adopted to meet the needs of the times. You should think about it because they involve promotion of activity and self-realization people concerned by covered activities but not amendments to wiki system itself. Decrease of entry barrier to discussions by provision of system of involvement of personal talk pages and SNS including Twitter. Talk pages of articles are similar.
• Protection is cause of parallel activities of users which are closed and hard to know. Covered nature of SNS above will make up for such a wiki’s limits. Improper utilization of sock puppetry also influence very much to this situation. Unreasonable operation of multi-direction will protect spread and progress in computer literacy in the true sense of the word on the contrary. In spite of some problems at expression of individual data for privacy issues, you should count including multi-accounts for statistical records.

4. What do you wish you could do on talk pages, but can't due to the technical limitations?

• Talk pages are to use to ask meanings of texts, to propose polished texts and to do other actions.

Other opinions

1. While I browsed [2], I do not understand why you are discussing like this or what problems make you to discuss like this. Unfinished translation of the page in MediaWiki into Japanese and little writings in this page mean little users are interested in this discussion at least in Japanese Wikipedia. I appear you are trying to solve local problems in English Wikipedia as global discussions including other languages’ Wikipedia.
2. It is good because I can get acknowledge about many things in discussions with many types of users. While I am unaccustomed at edits about everything including edits of talks, I am editing hard.
3. I want to write my sense to the present situation and response, variety of sense of incongruity and my knowledge but I am checking [3] because of my little energy and times. While this is necessary and hasty comment, your invitation has given me mu own new knowledge and certainty. Good luck to Wikipedia’s more development.
4. Other users pointed out my wrong edits and taught convenient functions in my talk page.
5. When bot invited me at my talk page, because I did know the place, thing and your will, I apologize my late comment. While I am unaccustomed to Wikipedia totally, I am going to act as usefully as possible. I’ll express my opinions for you as a few mobile user.